Forum:Collectively constructing knowledge
This discussion was started as part of Forum:Setting expectations. I moved it here because it is about a different topic. --RainerBlome 09:15, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] collective constructing knowledge
I don't know if this is the right place to describe my expectations, but "be bold", so I do it:
- I think, Wikipedia + Wikiaria is the best tool that ever was created in order to construct collective, relevant knowledge.
- What I didn't like so much in Wikipedia is the fact, that articles were deleted if the aren't conform to some very cramped rules. So a lot of resources are destroid. My opinion is, that good articles will emerge and bad articles will never be viewed. I think, Wikiaria seems to be open and let everybody write what he wants. So the best contents will emerge and the bad ones will diesapeare. This works like neurons in the brain, isn't it?
- My question: How to evaluate articles in order to bring good articles on the ranking-top? That is my practicle question.--jeanpol 05:55, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] My proposition for a wikiasari-definition and for the next steps
Wikiasari (wiki=quick, sari=search about) is a search engine that allows users for participating in ranking the search results. So the best results emerge. In addition users can create Miniarticles. This miniarticles emerge through a collective reduction of complexity. So wikiasari is the first tool which enables humans to interact in order to collectively construct relevant knowledge like neurons in the brain. The motivation of users to participate sticks to the human basic needs, especially the need of social integration, social recognition, self-fulfillment and sense. Active participating in wikiasari enhances websensibility. Currently the alphaversion allows users to participate in creating the combination of searchengine and databank, that be needed in order to quickly produce solutions for worldwide problems (see The Wisdom of crowds).
- Next steps: When the critical mass of users will be reached, the system will enter in resonance. In order to motivate users to participate actively, it is crucial that the miniarticles appear as Google-Results.
- Emergence in Wikiasari: like in a brain, good ideas (neuronal ensembles) find many users willing to cooperate (friends), they build a synergy. So good ideas are emerging in the wikiasari-brain (attention economy).--jeanpol 13:47, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
- When you write "Wikiasari", do you mean the Wikia Search project?
- I must say that you are writing "too quickly" for me. You are rapid-firing analogies and theories at us which could each use some careful thought. The world will change, but not in a day. Take your time. Say one thing at a time, defend it until it is accepted, then go for the next one.
- Also, my buzzword alarms are ringing loudly here. For example, I prefer to avoid the notion of "emergence" as its definition varies too much with context. In my opinion, the notion of Emergence should only be used in the sense of strong emergence. With "true" (strong) emergence, something suddenly exists that no single component contributed. Mini-articles result from users writing and editing. The complexity reduction in this case is the direct result of user contributions. However, every single user could have written a mini article all on her own. What exactly emerges, in the context of mini articles, in your opinion?
- --RainerBlome 22:02, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
- I understand your objections very well. The reason why I edit so fast is that I don't want to edit every single item for his own but the coherent whole of the theory. From my point of vew the most important thing is to present a theory-ensemble that everybody can understand and that helps to act. Of course its possible to discuss about each individual item, but my purpose is to offer a coherent theory as whole. And now this aim is achieved. If you want, you can change the items. That's the way of open source. If the theory and practice I offer is not convincing, it will not emerge(with my words) but disappear. Regarding your question about my comprehension of emergence: as I said, I want to use a word (metapher) that everybody can understand quickly. In this case, I'll not define a miniarticle as emergence but the whole ensemble of linked Miniarticles. But it doesn't matter if this definition is correct from a scientific point of vue. I think, everybody understands what in this context "emergence" means, because the context gives sense to all the items which be used in a specific text. That's the reason why it doesn't make sense to define very slowly each item (miniarticle) before to edit. My slogan is: "velocity and networking". --jeanpol 04:05, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] This is NOT Wikiasari
You really shouldn't be calling this Wikiasari. From search:About: As of October 2004, this site was called "Wikia". There were two parts to the project: this wiki, and software which was at a beta stage and had not been publicly launched (the software was named "Wikiasari" in November 2005 [3] but this name will not be used for the new search project). The software was a front-end to a database of URLs with information such as keywords, ratings, and whether the URL was adult-oriented. There were more than 300,000 URLs in the database at last count.
Check also: Forum:Wikiasari, comments on the name.
So please stop calling Wikia Search Wikiasari :-) Bani 02:18, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
- OK! Thank you very much!--jeanpol 03:46, 19 January 2008 (UTC)